So, errors aside (pretty sure you just need to properly capitalize butcheringType!), the meatspike is currently being automatically migrated out of maps, as it was considered to be an excessively gruesome tool solely used for monkeys and people. While adding more uses for it could be an argument for re-enabling it, we'd need to do accompanying mapping changes to avoid tripping up Chefs.

More importantly, this PR would mean the meatspike goes from something optional to something required for butchery again, which would mean we'd have to center its grislier elements more prominently in Chef gameplay. I'm given to understand the meatspike now lets you harvest meat from creatures while they are still alive?

It's overall just a very unsettling tool and not really in keeping with starcup's intended "default" tone. Making it the required "default" tool isn't ideal, in my opinion.

What are your thoughts?

(Also, sorry that this is the first of your PRs to get a reply! There's a significant queue and I need more time to properly look over your bigger PRs, and the camera PR's currently on Do Not Merge.)

So, errors aside (pretty sure you just need to properly capitalize butcheringType!), the meatspike is currently being automatically migrated out of maps, as it was considered to be an excessively gruesome tool solely used for monkeys and people. While adding more uses for it could be an argument for re-enabling it, we'd need to do accompanying mapping changes to avoid tripping up Chefs.

More importantly, this PR would mean the meatspike goes from something optional to something required for butchery again, which would mean we'd have to center its grislier elements more prominently in Chef gameplay. I'm given to understand the meatspike now lets you harvest meat from creatures while they are still alive?

It's overall just a very unsettling tool and not really in keeping with starcup's intended "default" tone. Making it the required "default" tool isn't ideal, in my opinion.

What are your thoughts?

(Also, sorry that this is the first of your PRs to get a reply! There's a significant queue and I need more time to properly look over your bigger PRs, and the camera PR's currently on Do Not Merge.)

i believe it's possible to harvest from living creatures but i'm pretty sure it might take longer? plus if someone's doing that in general then that's. like. kinda fucked up on their part and not the meat spike's
in my opinion the meatspike really isn't that different from normal butchering, since you're still chopping an entire creature into pieces, i just find it a bit silly john tider can take a plastic knife to an entire fucking cow and have the whole thing cut into steaks within like 3 seconds

So, errors aside (pretty sure you just need to properly capitalize butcheringType!), the meatspike is currently being automatically migrated out of maps, as it was considered to be an excessively gruesome tool solely used for monkeys and people. While adding more uses for it could be an argument for re-enabling it, we'd need to do accompanying mapping changes to avoid tripping up Chefs.
More importantly, this PR would mean the meatspike goes from something optional to something required for butchery again, which would mean we'd have to center its grislier elements more prominently in Chef gameplay. I'm given to understand the meatspike now lets you harvest meat from creatures while they are still alive?
It's overall just a very unsettling tool and not really in keeping with starcup's intended "default" tone. Making it the required "default" tool isn't ideal, in my opinion.
What are your thoughts?
(Also, sorry that this is the first of your PRs to get a reply! There's a significant queue and I need more time to properly look over your bigger PRs, and the camera PR's currently on Do Not Merge.)

i believe it's possible to harvest from living creatures but i'm pretty sure it might take longer? plus if someone's doing that in general then that's. like. kinda fucked up on their part and not the meat spike's in my opinion the meatspike really isn't that different from normal butchering, since you're still chopping an entire creature into pieces, i just find it a bit silly john tider can take a plastic knife to an entire fucking cow and have the whole thing cut into steaks within like 3 seconds

Sidenote - have you used a plastic knife to butcher a creature? I wasn't aware that worked.

So, errors aside (pretty sure you just need to properly capitalize butcheringType!), the meatspike is currently being automatically migrated out of maps, as it was considered to be an excessively gruesome tool solely used for monkeys and people. While adding more uses for it could be an argument for re-enabling it, we'd need to do accompanying mapping changes to avoid tripping up Chefs.
More importantly, this PR would mean the meatspike goes from something optional to something required for butchery again, which would mean we'd have to center its grislier elements more prominently in Chef gameplay. I'm given to understand the meatspike now lets you harvest meat from creatures while they are still alive?
It's overall just a very unsettling tool and not really in keeping with starcup's intended "default" tone. Making it the required "default" tool isn't ideal, in my opinion.
What are your thoughts?
(Also, sorry that this is the first of your PRs to get a reply! There's a significant queue and I need more time to properly look over your bigger PRs, and the camera PR's currently on Do Not Merge.)

i believe it's possible to harvest from living creatures but i'm pretty sure it might take longer? plus if someone's doing that in general then that's. like. kinda fucked up on their part and not the meat spike's in my opinion the meatspike really isn't that different from normal butchering, since you're still chopping an entire creature into pieces, i just find it a bit silly john tider can take a plastic knife to an entire fucking cow and have the whole thing cut into steaks within like 3 seconds

Sidenote - have you used a plastic knife to butcher a creature? I wasn't aware that worked.

i'm pretty sure it's possible, since you can use it to cut up pizza, and im pretty sure butchering AND cutting food both check for the Sharp component